Is Global Warming true?
Other · asked by user [] · 2007-06-16 · 20 answers
We hear about it every day but is it true or is it manipulation?
user [160] · 2007-10-25
Well, if I wanted to experience hot summers , I would move to southern US but I dont. We all have free will and can relocate as needed. Some are projecting that perhaps well be able to grow wheat in Alaska soon.Regarding Treta Yuga, you seen to make some assumption of which Im unaware.The sentence makes no sense to me.
Regarding the % of people performing Samkirtan: I think you under estimate the power of the Holy Name. Everyone who hears the Name becomes purified, not just the chanters. Another thing , is that when people return to work or home after hearing the Holy Name, they are liable to report that" the Hare Krishnas were chanting again" . They are then saying the Name themselves. So the effect is wide and deep.
Last winter was very warm for the first half and then normal for the second half here where I reside. The demigods are very expert; they can give nice conditions to the pious and hellish conditions to the rascals.
user [160] · 2007-10-25
Most pious persons in the West, accept God as a person. They may be sinful but they are not so offensive as the Mayavadis who deny the Personality of Godhead. Much of the suffering in India is due to fact that a large % of the population is strongly influenced by the impersonal conception of the absolute. It is not surprising that the demigods make things uncomfortable for these rascals. Unfortunately , those who live near and amongst them, must suffer also.Following is an except from a Gaur Govinda Maharaj lecture.
user [190] · 2007-10-26
Gadai Prabhu said: "The demigods are very expert; they can give nice conditions to the pious and hellish conditions to the rascals."Do you mean to say that the devotees live mostly in north america? What about the devotees in Delhi and Bombay -- should they also move to North America with their families?
Prabhu: What I am trying to say is that the weather is getting worse -- not better -- if you consider all parts of the globe -- not just north america.
user [190] · 2007-10-26
Gadai Prabhu: Just because you believe that God is a person and keep committing sins does not take you off the hook. Sin is a sin -- in fact, for a devotee, a sin committed with the knowledge that doing such and such is a sin is a bigger sin. So, based on this argument, people in the west or (in particular America) should be punished more severely -- and that is what is happening perhaps (sarcastic grin) -- so many cancer patients and diabetics all around the country -- just look up the stats -- thats the punishment for hiding inside airconditioned buildings all the time and making others suffer because of that!There is Mayavad is India because that was spread around as per Lord Krishnas plan. Lord Buddha was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu himself -- what to say about other gurus in the Mayavadi disciplic succession. Now is the time for Krishna Consciousness to spread all around -- you wont even notice when the number of devotees in India will surpass that in the western world -- the movement is already caught up there...
user [192] · 2007-10-26
Global warming is 100 % true,there has been a report by 1,000s of scientists confiming global warming.The issue is is it man-made or natural ?
user [19] · 2007-10-27
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]Global warming is 100 % true,there has been a report by 1,000s of scientists confiming global warming.The issue is is it man-made or natural ?[/quote]
evolution has been reported and confirmed by 1000s of scientists too.
user [160] · 2007-10-27
Bg-2.14O son of Kunt'e9, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed.
from purport:
"In the proper discharge of duty, one has to learn to tolerate nonpermanent appearances and disappearances of happiness and distress."
Bhag.10.14.8
My dear Lord, one who earnestly waits for You to bestow Your causeless mercy upon him, all the while patiently suffering the reactions of his past misdeeds and offering You respectful obeisances with his heart, words and body, is surely eligible for liberation, for it has become his rightful claim.
from purport:
"The word su-sam'e9k'f1am'e4'eba indicates that a devotee earnestly awaits the mercy of the Supreme Lord even while suffering the painful effects of previous sinful activities. Lord K'e5'f1'eba explains in the Bhagavad-g'e9t'e4 that a devotee who fully surrenders unto Him is no longer liable to suffer the reactions of his previous karma. However, because in his mind a devotee may still maintain the remnants of his previous sinful mentality, the Lord removes the last vestiges of the enjoying spirit by giving His devotee punishments that may sometimes resemble sinful reactions. The purpose of the entire creation of God is to rectify the living entity'92stendency to enjoy without the Lord, and therefore the particular punishment given for a sinful activity is specifically designed to curtail the mentality that produced the activity. Although a devotee has surrendered to the Lord'92s devotional service, until he is completely perfect in K'e5'f1'eba consciousness he may maintain a slight inclination to enjoy the false happiness of this world. The Lord therefore creates a particular situation to eradicate this remaining enjoying spirit. This unhappiness suffered by a sincere devotee is not technically a karmic reaction; it is rather the Lord'92s special mercy for inducing His devotee to completely let go of the material world and return home, back to Godhead.
A sincere devotee earnestly desires to go back to the Lord'92s abode. Therefore he willingly accepts the Lord'92s merciful punishment and continues offering respects and obeisances to the Lord with his heart, words and body. Such a bona fide servant of the Lord, considering all hardship a small price to pay for gaining the personal association of the Lord, certainly becomes a legitimate son of God, as indicated here by the words d'e4ya-bh'e4k. Just as one cannot approach the sun without becoming fire, one cannot approach the supreme pure, Lord K'e5'f1'eba, without undergoing a rigid purificatory process, which may appear like suffering but which is in fact a curative treatment administered by the personal hand of the Lord."
user [1] · 2007-10-28
Please refrain from posting large chunks of copy/paste text from books. If it is strictly necessary and relevant to your comment attach as document to the post (note).user [40] · 2007-10-28
This thread is in errorThe question is not
is global warming true
it is this
is global warming caused by human activity
No one is disputing that the earth is warming up
the evidence shows that it is
Everyone I talk to all around the world tells me that the weather where they are has changed dramatically since they were children. Here where I am we are running out of water. it has not been raining anywhere near our dams for a long time.
Have you not heard that the rising sea will flood Puri and Lord Jagannathas temple.
There are some places where the sea has already risen
have you not heard that Greenland are rejoicing the melting if the ice, ice that has remained frozen for thousands of years
its definitely happening
what people dispute is if humans are the cause of it
user [2] · 2007-10-28
brennan, I think even that is disputable. Just take a look at the non biased data starting 100 years ago and you will see warming, cooling, etc all varieties It is all part of changeable nature of weather, not that NOW we are experiencing more of that.
There were always warmings, coolings, draughts, floods, tornados, etc. And nobody made a fuzz of it.
The scientist take advantage and "predict" catastrophes, but in fact, they are not able to predict tomorrows weather.
user [33] · 2007-10-28
what about the ice age and then the warming again of the earth? Wouldnt that be called "global freezing" and then "global warming"?user [160] · 2007-10-29
Is Global warming true? Its doubtful that a really scientific conclusion can be drawn with such a small amount of Data. Just like if there is a cold snap or a heat wave for a few days, we dont just assume that the whole month or year will be the same. In ten or twenty years we will know if the trend is more permanant.user [192] · 2007-10-29
The polar ice caps a rapidly melting away,this dosent happen in " 100 year cycles ", they are finding polar bears swimmimg 60 miles from ice or land,this has never been seen before.It just makes sense that as Kali-Yuga progresses,life on earth will become more and more miserable for its inhabitants.
user [2] · 2007-10-29
polar bears in "danger", ha ha ha . We are so gullible. We trust those leaders, again.[youtube]Uw5WdmuGSfM[/youtube]
user [160] · 2007-11-09
Just heard on a shortwave radio program that there is a secret treaty between the Russians and US to intentionally melt the polar ice caps. Called the HAARP project- they are heating up the Ionosphere with microwave radiation.user [40] · 2007-11-10
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2642773.stm
user [2] · 2007-11-10
1. mankind cannot influence nature as it is Krishnas unsurmountable power2. scientists cannot predict even tomorrows weather and they advance decades and even 100 years time theories.
Read the "scientific" articles with that in mind and you will see how cheating is going on in the name of science.
They pose as if they knew, but in reality is cheating.
"Kick them on the face"... (copyright by Srila Prabhupada). :)
user [160] · 2007-12-16
HMMM DER, AndySmall group of US experts insist global warming not man-made
by Jean-Louis Santini Sun Dec 16, 3:58 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - A small group of US experts stubbornly insist that, contrary to what the vast majority of their colleagues believe, humans may not be responsible for the warming of the planet Earth.
These experts believe that global warming is a natural phenomenon, and they point to reams of data they say supports their assertions.
These conclusions are in sharp contradiction to those of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which reached its conclusions using largely similar data.
The UN body of about 3,000 experts, including several renown US scientists, jointly won the award with former US vice president Al Gore for their work to raise awareness about the disastrous consequences of global warming.
In mid-November the IPCC adopted a landmark report stating that the evidence of a human role in the warming of the planet was now "unequivocal."
Retreating glaciers and loss of snow in Alpine regions, thinning Arctic summer sea ice and thawing permafrost shows that climate change is already on the march, the report said.
Carbon pollution, emitted especially by the burning of oil, gas and coal, traps heat from the Sun, thus warming the Earths surface and inflicting changes to weather systems.
A group of US scientists however disagree, and have written an article on their views that is published in The International Journal of Climatology, a publication of Britains Royal Meteorological Society.
"The observed pattern of warming, comparing surface and atmospheric temperature trends, doesnt show the characteristic fingerprint associated with greenhouse warming," wrote lead author David Douglas, a climate expert from the University of Rochester, in New York state.
"The inescapable conclusion is that human contribution is not significant and that observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a negligible contribution to climate warming," Douglas wrote.
According to co-author John Christi from the University of Alabama, satellite data "and independent balloon data agree that the atmospheric warming trends do not exceed those of the surface," while greenhouse models "demand that atmospheric trend values be two to three times greater."
Data from satellite observations "suggest that greenhouse models ignore negative feedback produced by clouds and by water vapor, that diminish the warming effects" of human carbon dioxide emissions.
The journal authors "have good reason, therefore, to believe that current climate models greatly overestimate the effects of greenhouse gases."
For Fred Singer, a climatologist at the University of Virginia and another co-author, the current warming "trend is simply part of a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that has been seen in ice cores, deep sea sediments and stalagmites . . . and published in hundreds of papers in peer reviewed journals."
How these cyclical climate take place is still unknown, but they "are most likely caused by variations in the solar wind and associated magnetic fields that affect the flux of cosmic rays incident on cloudiness, and thereby control the amount of sunlight reaching the earths surface and thus the climate."
Singer said at a recent National Press Club meeting in Washington that there is still no definite proof that humans can produce climate change.
The available data is ambiguous, Singer said: global temperatures, for example, rose between 1900 and 1940, well before humans began to burn the enormous quantities of hydrocarbons they do today. Then they dropped between 1940 and 1975, when the use of oil and coal increased, he said.
Singer believes that other factors -- like variations of solar winds and terrestrial magnetic field that impact cloud formations and the amount of sunlight reaching the Earths surface, and thus determining the temperature -- are much more influential than human-generated greenhouse gas emissions.
user [190] · 2007-12-24
While the melting of ice/icebergs on the poles due to global warming may or may not be a fact, the fact remains that everyone around the world is feeling adverse changes in the weather. Regarding many advocating that global warming is due to natural causes, only time will tell (and very soon) if the global warming experienced now and near future is at the same level as during 1900-1940 -- as their assertion of it being caused by natural sources is mostly based on the data from 1900-1940. It may be too late though, if we find out otherwise after say 10 years, to reverse what is going on in the world.One obvious thing is certainly that the artificial life that most of us lead is not good at all. Prabhupada indicated that many times. If not global warming, it is a cause of so many diseases, so much stress, etc. (In US, one out of 2 suffer from Cancer in their lifetime -- isnt that alone a warning sign big enough to consider natural lifestyle over the current one). So, modernization (or civilization as we know it in the western world) has to be kept in check and in fact countered with natural living as much as possible.
user [2] · 2007-12-24
weather changes are being felt forever in cycles.they do not have to conform now to 1900-40 period.
we cannot reverse climate, that is part of the wrong assertion.
health and unnatural living are entirely a different issue, not caused by weather change.
please read some previous posts about the governments fear techniques to subdue people.
Now they constantly pound on us as being responsible for climate, and its (questionable) effects.