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Mixed messages?

Philosophy · asked by user [] · 2010-08-22 · 3 answers
Is it just me, or is there something seriously contradictory about these two articles?

Date: 7 March 2010
http://news.iskcon.org/node/2600
"With Ohio-based AB Resources set to pay the community a lease rate of $2,500 per acre for about 4,000 acres - and 18.75 percent production royalties if the company begins pumping natural gas - community member Gabriel Fried said he believes now is the time to sign. "We could wait two years to see if the price goes to $5,000 per acre. But we wanted to get the production going because the royalties are the real source of revenue," Fried said."

and

Date: 20 August 2010
http://news.iskcon.com/node/3061
"There is currently a new wave of interest in reviving the agricultural roots of New Vrindaban, a move which is supported by the community'92s local leadership as well as the top leadership of the world-wide Hare Krishna movement. '93The current petroleum-based economic system is viable for 50 years at the most. Someone needs to create an economic model to fill the impending vacuum,'94 said Malati. '93A major part of New Vrindaban'92s mission is to create, by example, the next economic model. "
user [154] · 2010-08-23
I do not think it is. To develop a sustainable, or "next economic model", one really needs a huge investment (of both capital and qualified manpower). Since both sides of investment are missing, I see no problem or contradiction in raising money in any way possible, however we can only hope that the funds will be available for it is meant for.
user [153] · 2010-08-23
"First of all this artificial way should be stopped, and the bulls should be engaged in ploughing and transporting and smashing the grains. To avoid machinery, petrol, machine oil, by natures way. Your description of the Tennessee farm is very nice."
(Letter to Balavanta das, January 3, 1977)

"The New Vrndaban idea is that persons who live there will accept the bare necessities of life to maintain the body and soul together and the major part of the time should be engaged in development of KRSNA consciousness. The whole Vedic principle is to develop KRSNA consciousness, without creating much botheration for the program of sense gratification. Industrial development or mining industry in the neighboring places will mar the whole idea. Now you have to consider, yourself, looking forward to the future of the land, and then decide what to do. I do not like to have New Vrndaban with industrial or mining areas. I have got experience in them in India, that the mining areas are simply next to dungeon. The workers in the mines are considered to be working in hell. And we never expect any good behavior from such workers. We must think of the atmosphere around Vrndavana. In India, in our present government, they are trying to develop industries in the vast tracts of land around Vrndavana and creating a hellish atmosphere. So, I request you to be assured of the future of the land and do the needful."
(Letter to Hayagriva, July 17, 1968)
user [153] · 2010-08-23
August 17, 1968
Montreal, Quebec

My Dear Hayagriva,

Please accept my blessings. I am so glad to receive your note dated August 13, 1968, with the copy of lease agreement and I have gone through it carefully. When you were here I suggested to purchase the land out-right. But I think it has not been possible. But on the face of the lease, it appears as good as sale document.

But the clause, "Excepting and reserving however, all of the coal within and underlying said property, and subject to the mining rights and privileges set forth in the deed conveying said coal, made by Joseph E. McCombs, et al., dated March 30, 1903, recorded in said Clerks office in Deed Book 98, at page 185," has caused my headache. I do not know what is written there in the Clerks office in Deed Book 98, but on common sense, it appears that the area is coal mine or oilmine.

Under the circumstances, if in future coal industry is developed and if it is required, the government may at once ask us to vacate and no law can stop it. Even if the government does not acquire our land, if in our vicinity some such industry (coal or oil industry) is started, the whole idea of Vrindaban will fade away. Vrindaban conception is a transcendental village, without any botheration of the modern industrial atmosphere.

My idea of developing New Vrindaban is to create an atmosphere of spiritual life where people in bona fide order of social division, namely, Brahmacaris, Grhasthas, Vanaprastha, Sannyasis, or specifically Brahmacaris and Sannyasis, and Vanaprasthas, will live there independently, completely depending on agricultural produce and milk from the cows. The life should be simplified without being hampered by laboring day and night for economic development, without any spiritual understanding.

The New Vrindaban idea is that persons who live there will accept the bare necessities of life to maintain the body and soul together and the major part of time should be engaged in development of Krishna Consciousness. The whole Vedic principle is to develop Krishna Consciousness, without creating much botheration for the program of sense gratification. Industrial development (or mining industry) in the neighboring places will mar the whole idea.

Now you have to consider, yourself, looking forward to the future, of the land, and then decide, what to do. I do not like to have New Vrindaban with industrial or mining areas. I have got experience of them in India, that the mining areas are simply next to dungeon. The workers in the mines are considered to be residing in the hell. And we can never expect any good behavior from such workers. So we must think of the atmosphere around Vrindaban.

In India also our present government, they are trying to develop industries in the vast tracts of land around Vrindaban, and creating a hellish atmosphere. So I shall request you to be assured of the future of the land, and then do the needful. The summary is that the face of the lease agreement appears to be all right, but I am thinking of a spiritual development. I hope you have received my previous letter and I am expecting your reply as soon as possible.

Last night we celebrated here Janmastami festival very gorgeously, and many Indians in large number attended and they contributed also very liberally. One Madrasi gentleman demonstrated a Krishna dance by his two young daughters, and it was nice. At the present moment, many devotees from San Francisco, New York (specifically your intimate friend Umapati, is present here) have come here.

Today they will observe Vyasa Puja ceremony (my Birthday Anniversary), so from this day, I will be stepping on the 73rd year. I hope the remaining days of my life may be utilized to serve you all Western devotees of Krishna.

Please pray to Krishna that he may give me the necessary strength to discharge the duty entrusted by my Spiritual Master.

Convey my blessings to Kirtanananda, and I hope you are all doing well."

Your ever well-wisher,
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

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