Do you think 911 was an inside job?
Other · asked by user [] · 2007-10-15 · 38 answers
I ask this old question,as still some devotees believe in Bin Laden and that muslims attacked America.This is the danger when we watch TV and believe the normal press.
No tower can be brought down in 10 secs,by a plane,made of aluminium!
http://reopen911.org
No tower can be brought down in 10 secs,by a plane,made of aluminium!
http://reopen911.org
user [192] · 2007-10-16
From inside what ?"No tower can be brought down in 10 secs,by a plane,made of aluminium!", dont forget the several thousand gallons of jet fuel that had been burning for an hour.
user [153] · 2007-10-16
add to that, the "wonders" of prefab concrete structures, OSHA building inadequacies, corrupt NYC buiding inspectors, and the combined impact of each additional falling floor of debris on the base of the structure, it is easily understandable from an engineering perspective. as corrupt as the US&A government is, and as much as they cover up, this still is more about neglect of danger than it is about government cooptation of peoples "freedoms". theyve already accomplished that with cable TV and the financial upheaval that this ongoing war in defense of isreal has cost will be a catalyst of destruction.user [29] · 2007-10-16
I think in this world of the cheaters and the cheated everything is possible. And truth is often much worse than we are able even to imagine. I generally dont believe official versions of interpreting anything, including this 911 disaster.user [154] · 2007-10-16
Yes. It did not require any transcendental help, all products of the gunas of material nature and people who are under the gunas, the insiders, ie [i] [b] conditioned souls.
user [2] · 2007-10-16
be it real this time or an insider job, the leaders are no less corrupt. I think to speculate about if it was or not an inside job is useless, unless that helps to inform the people and devotees and get them rid of their "trust" in nowadays leadership (and their so called patriotism, yes, just read some posts in some websites and there are some devotees full on american patriots (???).user [19] · 2007-10-16
what I want to see is what will be taught in schools in 20 years.user [192] · 2007-10-16
9/11 was Bin Ladens " one trick pony ", and what a horrific spectacle it was.user [194] · 2007-10-17
How can one little Arab person challenge the powerful US military/intelligence force?With computer technology and powerful weapons,it is not imaginable!According to my conclusions,it was a well organized action by the secret societies,led by the wealthiest of men,who control all the worlds politics and finance,ruthlessly so as to carry on with the demonic businesseses of weapons and oil industries.Without wars,theres no need of weapons,and the wealth of oil ressources is very tempting as its worth trillions of dollars.
On the other side,the islamic countries,owning such oilfields,are also dangerous,as their agenda is to turn the world into an islamic kingdom,without freedom of religions.They also have order-from Allah-to kill any idol worshippers,and any other infidels.Killing the cow is also part of their "sacred"rituals,and so,are dangerous to divine living.As christians are also cow eaters,improving the slaughterhouses,expanding meat eating through propaganda and multinational restaurants,thus making this world a hell,as such industries are very bad for environment and health.
By killing each other,its just collective karma for both faiths,and devotees should never engage themselves in any such demonic military forces,meant to maintain in power big asuras,hateful of devotees,cows and Krishna.
Devotees should make their own political forces,and promote the philosopy of Bhagavad gita,protect cows -and this require land]and brahmanas/women and children,eliminate demons,and thus turn this planet into Vaikuntha!
On the agenda of asuras:
Grab all oilfields.
Grab all land and cultivate plants to make ethanol,thus increase of food prices.
Without land,no cow protection,no pure milk,no pure veg.
Turn everyone into a meat-eater.
Promote false medicines instead of herbal.
Intoxicate with cigarettes/drugs/alcool/music/porn..
Eliminate devotees,who are preaching the contrary.
to hariharibol:
Inside:meaning cooperation of US leaders/Army.
Fuel burn at 2000 degrees,not enough to melt steel.
In history of plane crash on skscrapers,all stayed upright after months!
Special explosives were used to demolish the towers...dont forget WT7,not hit by any plane!
user [192] · 2007-10-17
Yes Prabhu,but all those things have been taking place even BEFORE 9/11 happend.The war was started because of weapons of mass destruction,remember ?
" Fuel burn at 2000 degrees,not enough to melt steel " ,add tons of office furniture,carpets,ceilings,all sorts of electronics,hundreds of filling cabinets full of paper and everything else,and what chance would a 30 year antiquated office tower with 70s era fire protection systems have ?
And I just checked,Flight 11 was carrying an estimated 10,000 gallons of fuel at the time of impact.
Yes, it was an inside job, inside Al-Qaeda, Osama bin Ladens Network of Terror.
If anyone has any photos of other sub-sonic jet-liners that have crashed into sky-scrapers,please post them.
user [29] · 2007-10-18
I absolutely agree with Gaurangaliladas. Theres no reason to trust official explanations. Just see the worlds situation in whole picture and understand that todays leaders are the very last ones who wish welfare for people. Actually it is right opposite: they dont hestitate secretly to do any kind of corrupted actions due to fulfilling their selfish intentions.user [192] · 2007-10-18
Whats the big deal, Bin Laden convinced 20 arabs into hi-jacking four planes and had them crash into three buildings and the earth.Dont see any conspiracy there.
user [29] · 2007-10-18
hariharibol: Do you really believe, that things like this happen just because of some accidental brain waves of few mad Arabs? No Prabhu, demons who rule this world these days have got very deeply elaborated plans for fulfilling their corrupt desires and they just use such fanatic dolls for their own aims. Rather I would believe Bin Laden and some american "strings pullers" are good friends and they arranged that 911 incident together for some reason which brings them more power, more money, more pride and more sense gratification. Note that Bin Laden family is one of the most influential clans in world business...user [192] · 2007-10-18
hariharibol: Do you really believe, that things like this happen just because of some accidental brain waves of few mad Arabs?Yes.
Not so long ago a similiar global terrorist event was caused by a group of germans, they were call the Third Riech.
And for the record,Bin Ladens family cant stand the thought of Him.
user [29] · 2007-10-18
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]hariharibol: Do you really believe, that things like this happen just because of some accidental brain waves of few mad Arabs?Yes.
Not so long ago a similiar global terrorist event was caused by a group of germans, they were call the Third Riech.
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Im sorry Prabhu, I dont understand you. Third Reich? Yes, this is very nice example of great influence, intriques and actions of demoniac powers and personalities..
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]
And for the record,Bin Ladens family cant stand the thought of Him.[/quote]
Yes, demons usually cant stand thoughts of Krishna.. Why are you mentioning it here?
user [192] · 2007-10-18
The point I am making is it can take very few individuals working together in secrecy to cause great catastrophe in the world,like 9/11.Sorry , no conspiracy here.
" And for the record,Bin Ladens family cant stand the thought of Him." I mentioned this here because you said " Note that Bin Laden family is one of the most influential clans in world business... " , The Bin Ladens family business had nothing to do with 9/11 or al queda or Bin Laden himself.
Did I say something wrong?
user [29] · 2007-10-18
hariharibol: No, you said anything wrong Prabhu, afaik. It only almost sounds like you mean you know everything, e.g. connections between members of Bin Laden faimily and other influential persons, their interests in various kind of businesses, and so on... It seems to me you roughly underestimate demons and their abilities of secret collective work ;-)But you know some things probably better than others, so we dont need to waste our time here with useless discussions. Lets go chant holy name!
user [192] · 2007-10-18
Its all in good fun my freind, " Do you think 911 was an inside job? " is just a question on a free-forum vaisnava freindly web-site.It is possible others had pre-knowledge of 9/11 and did nothing about it
" It seems to me you roughly underestimate demons and their abilities of secret collective work ;-) ," I am open to your ideas prabhu,what do you think happened ?
user [194] · 2007-10-18
It was all controlled demolition!Dont get brainwashed[or contaminated] by the press and TV!
Make your own research,by google...Control of peoples mind is the main agenda for these asuras,only interested in exploiting the worlds wealth,and peoples stupidity.Devotees are supposed to be the most intelligent people on earth!
Its even preferable to stop watching TV,as they also put sublimal ads in programs in order to influence the population!
The result of such demonic management is destruction of American people by sending them in horrific war zones.They return,completely traumatised,crazy,diseased,and suicidal.The dominated nation is even much more in problems with all infrastructures destroyed,pollutions etc...
By taking other nations in this war, they intend to create general conflicts,while in safety in their secluded places.
More horrific plans are also being programmed at present,such as Irans occupation,so as to carry on with the weapons industry/oil industry etc all in teh name of democracy.Its rather demonscrazy!
http://prisonplanet.com
user [29] · 2007-10-19
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]" It seems to me you roughly underestimate demons and their abilities of secret collective work ;-) ," I am open to your ideas prabhu,what do you think happened ?[/quote]Gaurangaliladas Prabhu has already answered you fully instead of me... Its all about ability to look at things from different angle than which is officially presented in media. Todadys society is led by selfish and deceitful cheaters who are controlled by demoniac powers and some of them are real demons themselves.. Theres no reason to trust anything what they say. You can be absolutely sure that true reality and reasons behind things are in every single case very far from their official explanations, including 911 event. I cant tell you what was the reason for 911 incident and what was demons gain from it, because I dont know it, I dont want to know it neither, nor I want to speculate. But certainly it was about dirty politics, greed, envy, power and money. Nothing else.[br]
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During the chanting this morning an idea came to my mind, that I have to recommend you reading the book "Spiritual Warrior III" by HH Bhakti Tirtha Swami. Please read this book, if you can. Maharaj very nicely and understandably clarifies there demons intentions and their means for achieving them. This book can really help one to understand whats going on in todays society.[br]
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user [2] · 2007-10-19
if you go half way between the lies in the media and the ultra heavy conspiration theories, probably you are close to the truth.user [192] · 2007-10-19
" It was all controlled demolition! "...good point Gaurangaliladas, I wonder what kind of explosives they used and how they detonated it ?It would be nice to know who built a bomb that could withstand a direct hit from a 100 ton jetliner travelling at 500 miles an hour with 10,000 gallons of fuel,the
bomb remained operational for up to an hour after impact so someone could detonate by remote control,right under the noses of 2,000 of New York Citys finest.
user [194] · 2007-10-20
Its all explained in the certain sites,if you look for it,bu ti f you dont go to these sites,thinking that its all anti American propaganda,youll never see the Truth!Many workers have been seen before 911,doing "repair "jobs,and anyway no one cares for anyone in these high skyscrapers,so any activity can be done.
It is believed that new types of explosives were used[of radioactive matter],causing health problems to those who breathed the air around there.Thermite is also believed to have been used,thus melting steel,which was all shipped to China:no evidence left for the alledged murder of 3000 Americans,and the ongoing murder of Afghanis,Iraqis children/women by weapons of mass destruction from US Army.
No such weapons were ever discovered in such countries.
The great profiteers: the weapons/warplanes and equipment industries,reconstruction contracters,that otherwise would be bankrupt!
As well as future owners of oilfields/opium fields worth trillions of dollars.
The losers: young Americans losing their lives in war or returning withut legs/arms/sight etc...or badly diseased with depleted uranium weapons.Others: the civilian populations of these invaded countries,completely vulnerable to the polluted atmosphere[DU] and the whole worlds population,as such pollution spreads by contaminated clouds.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is
Chapter 16. The Divine And Demoniac Natures
Chapter 16, Verse 1-3.
The Blessed Lord said: Fearlessness, purification of ones existence, cultivation of spiritual knowledge, charity, self-control, performance of sacrifice, study of the Vedas, austerity and simplicity; nonviolence, truthfulness, freedom from anger; renunciation, tranquility, aversion to faultfinding, compassion and freedom from covetousness; gentleness, modesty and steady determination; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, freedom from envy and the passion for honor--these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine nature.
Chapter 16, Verse 4.
Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit, harshness and ignorance--these qualities belong to those of demoniac nature, O son of Prtha.
Chapter 16, Verse 5.
The transcendental qualities are conducive to liberation, whereas the demoniac qualities make for bondage. Do not worry, O son of Pandu, for you are born with the divine qualities.
Chapter 16, Verse 6.
O son of Prtha, in this world there are two kinds of created beings. One is called the divine and the other demoniac. I have already explained to you at length the divine qualities. Now hear from Me of the demoniac.
Chapter 16, Verse 7.
Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them.
Chapter 16, Verse 8.
They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire, and has no cause other than lust.
Chapter 16, Verse 9.
Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world.
Chapter 16, Verse 10.
The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent.
Chapter 16, Verse 11-12.
They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification.
http://asitis.com
user [192] · 2007-10-21
Yes Gaurangaliladas,its all anti American propaganda." It is believed that new types of explosives were used of radioactive matter ", sorry, radioactive matter is easily dedected,there wasnt any.
user [2] · 2007-10-28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPJgK12zq3A&NR=1110 floors in 8,4 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEu9XWwnTE
user [2] · 2007-10-29
very nice and scientific FAQshttp://911research.com/reviews/nist/WTC_FAQ_reply.html
user [192] · 2007-11-03
is any one able to summarize why they think there was an inside job ?user [29] · 2007-12-21
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]is any one able to summarize why they think there was an inside job ?[/quote][br]Dear Prabhuji,[br]
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plase, watch this movie: [br]
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Regarding WTC issue, please start watching at 36 minutes and 40 seconds of this film.[br]
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Here is version with Czech subtitles, maybe it could be useful for someone..[br]
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-686108267122535204&hl=en[/url][br]
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user [192] · 2007-12-21
...I have just finished watching the entire movie,its all maya,nothing to take seriously or be concerned about.I have no doubt that 9/11 was Bin Ladens " one trick pony ".user [29] · 2007-12-22
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]...I have just finished watching the entire movie,its all maya,nothing to take seriously or be concerned about.I have no doubt that 9/11 was Bin Ladens " one trick pony ".[/quote]You say this movie is Maya.. Yes, undoubtedly it is in one respect. But Maya is the whole reality of this material world. And controllers of todays society are her best agents. This movie quite precisely descibes how the things within this Maya nowadays are. Todays horrible world situation is not coming up by oneself. As well as here are agents of God and goodness, there are also agents of negative powers - who unfortunately rule the Kaliyuga world now. They are bringing the biggest Maya to majority of people every day through TV, radios, internet, billboards, magazines, cinemas, shopping centers, drugs, pubs, casinos, slaughter houses, whorehouses... And they know very well, why they are doing it. To make people dull and non-thinking, because in such state they are easy controllable. They want everyone to be engaged in sinful activities, because in such state one is weak, his consciousness is very low and thanks to it he is very easy controllable. They are programming the minds and the way of thinking of people though all kinds of media and then people willingly believe to what they serve them as the truth. And their lies are so deeply rooted in people that even devotees who are supposed to be most intelligent of people today believe the nonsense which those demons want us to believe. Its sad but true. The situation is really bad... What is going on now on this planet is nothing else than one big play of profit and power in which those interrested persons who stand behind this all are not scurple systematicly destroying lifes of millions of people. It requires a bit of intelligence and a lot of courage to understand that todays world is nothing else that one big delusioning circus controlled by very few demoniac persons. Have you already read the book Spiritual Warrior III by H.H. Bhakti Tirtha Maharaj, as I suggested?
user [2] · 2007-12-22
Maya="it is what main stream media tells you"Maya="the governments are there to protect us"
user [29] · 2007-12-22
Maya = "politicians are good and honest people and what they say to us is true"user [38] · 2007-12-22
When I want your opinion, Ill give it to you.- Illuminati
more quotes from a short-lived Illuminati Info site attached
user [2] · 2007-12-22
just a vivid example of how governments care for you:http://www.vedanews.com/story.php?title=Another_Asset_Forfeiture_Outrage
user [192] · 2007-12-22
...on the other hand , here in Canada where I live ,my brother needed a liver transplant to save His life , lucky for Him He did get a used liver , the $ 500,000 operation didnt cost Him a dime,all He had to do was show up.user [2] · 2007-12-22
Prabhu, the world is like this:[p][youtube]rvTFKpIaQhM[/youtube]
user [192] · 2007-12-22
..yes but that is only during the Kali-yuga.here is a more detailed description of the world :
Satya Yuga (also called Krita Yuga)
This first age is 1,728,000 human years. Also known as the Golden Age or age of Truth. The qualities of this age are: virtue reigns supreme; human stature is 21 cubits; lifespan is a lakh of years, and death occurs only when willed.
Treta Yuga
This second age is 1,296,000 human years. Also known as the Silver Age. The qualities of this age are: the climate is three quarters virtue and one quarter sin; human stature is 14 cubits; lifespan is 10,000 years.
Dvapara Yuga
This third age is 864,000 human years. Also known as the Bronze Age. The qualities of this age are: the climate is one half virtue and one half sin; lifespan is 1,000 years.
Kali Yuga
The fourth and last age is 432,000 human years. Also known as the Iron Age. This is the age in which we are presently living. The qualities of this age are: the climate is one quarter virtue and three quarters sin; human stature is 3.5 cubits; lifespan is 100 or 120 years.
user [29] · 2007-12-22
[quote][cite] hariharibol:[/cite]...on the other hand , here in Canada where I live ,my brother needed a liver transplant to save His life , lucky for Him He did get a used liver , the $ 500,000 operation didnt cost Him a dime,all He had to do was show up.[/quote]Thats nice, social and material "benefits" in some countries are better, but for majority of world population the living conditions are horrible. Thanks to our "nice" governments we can live a bit longer with new cost-free liver, but only for our longer abusing and exploitation by few powerful men who rule the world.. What we are talking about here is that the whole world system today is totally wrong. Our godless leaders really dont concern with our welfare but only with theirs. Thats the principle. The more one is selfish and with bigger ego, the higher position and more power he gets in todays political or social system. Our leaders today are first class rascals. They must be. If they werent, crowds of another rascals are pushing themselves into their position. Moreover, they are totally spiritually blind. They should provide us with conditions for spiritual growth and for attaining spiritual liberation, but instead they confuse and poison our minds and engage most of us in sinful activities. They lead the majority of people reliably into hell. Whether one will leave this body with one liver for hell today or in few years with another liver - it really doesnt matter. Yes, this all is only in Kaliyuga, but unfortunately we are in it now, therefore we talk about it...
user [2] · 2007-12-23
FBI planned to arrest 12.000 american citizens ignoring the habeas corpus.http://www.vedanews.com/out.php?title=FBI_planned_mass_arrests_in_1950
Former italian president says 9-11 solved:
http://www.vedanews.com/out.php?title=Italian_former_President_says_9-11_solved