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Theyre listed in SB 9.16.24p. Constellation Ursa Major aka Big Dipper.

ok am going to read it through, very much thanks big bro VEDA.
i was thinking that they were the seven rishis of svetadvip here, and you correct me if am wrong i was counting with Bhismadeva one of the asta-devas that were coursed to have not material bodyes on these earth where they were send to incarnate, the only one embodyes was Bhismadeva, thence the other seven where nimit (instrumental) to me. but p'e8rhaps it has anything to do with them.

ok here'b4s the quote i gather.
PURPORT

The seven stars revolving around the polestar at the zenith are called saptarsuc0u803 i-manu803 du803 ala. On these seven stars, which form the topmost part of our planetary system, reside seven sages: Kau347 yapa, Atri, Vasisu803 tu803 ha, Viu347 vu257 mitra, Gautama, Jamadagni and Bharadvu257 ja. These seven stars are seen every night, and they each make a complete orbit around the polestar within twenty-four hours. Along with these seven stars, all the others stars also orbit from east to west. The upper portion of the universe is called the north, and the lower portion is called the south. Even in our ordinary dealings, while studying a map, we regard the upper portion of the map as north.

TRANSLATION

Thus Jamadagni, being worshiped by Lord Parau347 uru257 ma, was brought back to life with full remembrance, and he became one of the seven sages in the group of seven stars.

SYNONYMS

sva-deham '97 his own body; jamadagnihu803 '97 the great sage Jamadagni; tu '97 but; labdhvu257 '97 regaining; sau109 u769 j'f1u257 na-laksu803 anu803 am '97 showing full symptoms of life, knowledge and remembrance; ru803 su803 u299 nu803 u257 m '97 of the great ru803 su803 is; manu803 du803 ale '97 in the group of seven stars; sahu803 '97 he, Jamadagni; abhu363 t '97 later became; saptamahu803 '97 the seventh; ru257 ma-pu363 jitahu803 '97 because of being worshiped by Lord Parau347 uru257 ma.

sva-dehau109 u769 jamadagnis tu
labdhvu257 sau109 u769 j'f1u257 na-laksu803 anu803 am
ru803 su803 u299 nu803 u257 u109 u769 manu803 du803 ale so bhu363 t
saptamo ru257 ma-pu363 jitahu803

Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: u346 ru299 mad Bhu257 gavatam 9.16.24 (Canto 9: Liberation - Chapter 16: Lord Parau347 uru257 ma Destroys the Worlds Ruling Class)

thanks if you got comments on these please continue., Hare Krsna !

oh yes and please devotees offcourse, have A happy Bishmastami
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If you mean asta vasus, they are listed in SB 6.6.10-11.

ok, (SB 6.6.10-11), TRANSLATION.

The son of Sauc0u324 kalpu257 was known as Sau324 kalpa, and from him lust was born. The sons of Vasu were known as the eight Vasus. Just hear their names from me: Dronu803 a, Pru257 nu803 a, Dhruva, Arka, Agni, Dosu803 a, Vu257 stu and Vibhu257 vasu. From Abhimati, the wife of the Vasu named Dronu803 a, were generated the sons named Harsu803 a, u346 oka, Bhaya and so on.

yes, the purana was saying; ...Bhishmas name in his boyhood was Devavrata. He was the eighth son of Shantanu, a king of the lunar dynasty and Gangadevi. This boy was the human embodiment of Dyau, one of the Ashthavasus. Shantanu, his father was the re-birth of another king, Mahabhisheka.

"... King Mahabhisheka after his death, attained Vishnuloka. Once he went to visit Brahma at Satyaloka. At that time Ganga devi was also present in Brahmas assembly. In that pious atmosphere, a gentle breeze began to blow and Gangadevis clothes were slightly deranged. Just at that moment Mahabhisheka took a stealthy glance at her and she also returned that glance. This was noted by Brahma who turned both of them into human beings by a curse. Gangadevi begged pardon and Brahma lifted the curse and blessed her that the Ashthavasus would come to the earth to be born as her sons and that afterwards she could come back to heaven. After that Gangadevi was born as a mortal woman in the world under the name Ganga and she spent her days in the forests near the Ganga river valleys.
In those days the ruler of the lunar dynasty was a king named Pratipa. Having no children he went to the bank of the Ganga and performed tapas there. Gangadevi who was moving about in the forests nearby, saw the king deeply absorbed in tapas. She approached him and sat on his right thigh. She wanted the king to be her husband. He explained to her that the right thigh is the proper seat of the daughter-in-law and so she would become his sons wife in due course. In due course of time, Pratipa has a son, Shantanu, born to him. When Shantanu grew up into a young man, one day he went for a hunt to the Ganga-valley and there he met Gangadevi. He fell in love with her at first sight and courted her. Gangadevi agreed to become his wife on the condition that he should not say anything to displease her and if he violated that condition she would leave him. The king accepted the condition and they became man and wife.
At about that time, the wife of Dyo, one of the Ashthavasus, happened to see the sacrificial cow of the sage Vasishtha and wished to have it. She expressed her desire to her husband, Dyo. Dyo with the other seven vasus went and took away by force Vasishthas cow. Vasishtha in his anger cursed the Ashthavasus to be born as mortals. they repented and begged pardon from Vasishtha. The sage told them that all of them would be born as the sons of Gangadevi and all except Dyo, who actually stole the cow, would return to heaven at the time of birth itself. As for Dyo, he would continue to live in the world for a long time, as an adventurous hero.
Gangadevi became pregnant and gave birth to her first child. She carried the child to the river Ganga and threw it into the river. Shantanu who followed her up to the river bank, did not say anything against her, remebering his promise...."

they are the (asta vasus) listed differently by name in the Srimad-Bh'e4gavatam than in Mah'e4bh'e4rata, epic ?!

here u346 ru299 u346 ukadeva Gosvu257 mu299 is telling Parikshit Maharaja to listen from him only.

no ok, but can i have a question here, the question more exactly was to whom are these seven rishis and why are the asta-vasus also quoted. how do they differ orders.

certainly there was the point of the curse that Devavrata underwent, as Bhisma Deva. and the course i quote folllowing, from the Mah'e4bh'e4rata is; "...At about that time, the wife of Dyo, one of the Ashthavasus, happened to see the sacrificial cow of the sage Vasishtha and wished to have it. She expressed her desire to her husband, Dyo. Dyo with the other seven vasus went and took away by force Vasishthas cow. Vasishtha in his anger cursed the Ashthavasus to be born as mortals"

then i ask, are these the rshi births, the other vasus undergone all through sage Vashista'b4s plea? being about so its just like, the other seven stars, on the sky are the other vasus. becoming rshis, under the plea of beging to Vashishta muni pardon for their offences and also Dyo wife'b4s one?

ok am confusing now, can you get that clear? Can it be like that then, what is the nature of Vashistha'b4s cow and its name?

Hare Krsna.

Seven rsis, residing on seven stars, and eight vasus (whose residence is not specified, afaik) are different sets of personalities. Out of asta vasus only Bhisma was born on earth. Vasistha is one of saptarsis. His cow is named Nandini (SB 1.19.9-10p.).

oh.. certainly, i was trying to understand whom where they; "On these seven stars, which form the topmost part of our planetary system, reside seven sages: Kauc0u347 yapa, Atri, Vasisu803 tu803 ha, Viu347 vu257 mitra, Gautama, Jamadagni and Bharadvu257 ja."

i recon then what they are still doing as rsis and what his activities are, for each one. thats an important matter as they recide on the top most part of our planetary system.

and so it is the vasus, as Dyau, Dyo.. and so on. "(SB 6.6.10-11), TRANSLATION.

The son of Sau324 kalpu257 was known as Sau324 kalpa, and from him lust was born. The sons of Vasu were known as the eight Vasus. Just hear their names from me: Dronu803 a, Pru257 nu803 a, Dhruva, Arka, Agni, Dosu803 a, Vu257 stu and Vibhu257 vasu. "

thankx

saptarsuc0u803 i-manu803 du803 ala -;

Kau347 yapa: One of the praju257 patis, the son of Maru299 ci and one of the sons-in-law of Praju257 pati Daksu803 a. He is the father of the gigantic bird Garudu803 a, who was given elephants and tortoises as eatables. He married thirteen daughters of Praju257 pati Daksu803 a, and their names are Aditi, Diti, Danu, Ku257 su803 tu803 hu257 , Arisu803 tu803 u257 , Surasu257 , Ilu257 , Muni, Krodhavau347 u257 , Tu257 mru257 , Surabhi, Saramu257 and Timi. He begot many children, both demigods and demons, by those wives. From his first wife, Aditi, all the twelve u256 dityas were born; one of them is Vu257 mana, the incarnation of Godhead. This great sage, Kau347 yapa, was also present at the time of Arjunas birth. He received a presentation of the whole world from Parau347 uru257 ma, and later on he asked Parau347 uru257 ma to go out of the world. His other name is Arisu803 tu803 anemi. He lives on the northern side of the universe.

Bharadvu257 ja: He is one of the seven great ru803 su803 is and was present at the time of the birth ceremony of Arjuna. The powerful ru803 su803 i sometimes undertook severe penances on the shore of the Ganges, and his u257 u347 rama is still celebrated at Prayu257 gadhu257 ma. It is learned that this ru803 su803 i, while taking bath in the Ganges, happened to meet Ghru803 tacu299 , one of the beautiful society girls of heaven, and thus he discharged semen, which was kept and preserved in an earthen pot and from which Dronu803 a was born. So Dronu803 u257 cu257 rya is the son of Bharadvu257 ja Muni. Others say that Bharadvu257 ja the father of Dronu803 a is a different person from Maharsu803 i Bharadvu257 ja. He was a great devotee of Brahmu257 . Once he approached Dronu803 u257 cu257 rya and requested him to stop the Battle of Kuruksu803 etra.

Vasisu803 tu803 ha: The great celebrated sage among the bru257 hmanu803 as, well known as the Brahmarsu803 i Vasisu803 tu803 hadeva. He is a prominent figure in both the Ru257 mu257 yanu803 a and Mahu257 bhu257 rata periods. He celebrated the coronation ceremony of the Personality of Godhead u346 ru299 Ru257 ma. He was present also on the Battlefield of Kuruksu803 etra. He could approach all the higher and lower planets, and his name is also connected with the history of Hiranu803 yakau347 ipu. There was a great tension between him and Viu347 vu257 mitra, who wanted his ku257 madhenu, wish-fulfilling cow. Vasisu803 tu803 ha Muni refused to spare his ku257 madhenu, and for this Viu347 vu257 mitra killed his one hundred sons. As a perfect bru257 hmanu803 a he tolerated all the taunts of Viu347 vu257 mitra. Once he tried to commit suicide on account of Viu347 vu257 mitras torture, but all his attempts were unsuccessful. He jumped from a hill, but the stones on which he fell became a stack of cotton, and thus he was saved. He jumped into the ocean, but the waves washed him ashore. He jumped into the river, but the river also washed him ashore. Thus all his suicide attempts were unsuccessful. He is also one of the seven ru803 su803 is and husband of Arundhatu299 , the famous star.

Atri: Atri Muni was a great bru257 hmanu803 a sage and was one of the mental sons of Brahmu257 ju299 . Brahmu257 ju299 is so powerful that simply by thinking of a son he can have it. These sons are known as mu257 nasa-putras. Out of seven mu257 nasa-putras of Brahmu257 ju299 and out of the seven great bru257 hmanu803 a sages, Atri was one. In his family the great Pracetu257 s were also born. Atri Muni had two ksu803 atriya sons who became kings. King Arthama is one of them. He is counted as one of the twenty-one praju257 patis. His wifes name was Anasu363 yu257 , and he helped Mahu257 ru257 ja Paru299 ksu803 it in his great sacrifices.

Gautama: One of the seven great sages of the universe. uc0u346 aradvu257 n Gautama was one of his sons. Persons in the Gautama-gotra (dynasty) today are either his family descendants or in his disciplic succession. The bru257 hmanu803 as who profess Gautama-gotra are generally family descendants, and the ksu803 atriyas and vaiu347 yas who profess Gautama-gotra are all in the line of his disciplic succession. He was the husband of the famous Ahalyu257 who turned into stone when Indradeva, the King of the heaven, molested her. Ahalyu257 was delivered by Lord Ru257 macandra. Gautama was the grandfather of Kru803 pu257 cu257 rya, one of the heroes of the Battle of Kuruksu803 etra.

Gu257 dhi-suta, or Viu347 vu257 mitra: A great sage of austerity and mystic power. He is famous as Gu257 dhi-suta because his father was Gu257 dhi, a powerful king of the province of Kanyu257 kubja (part of Uttara Pradesh). Although he was a ksu803 atriya by birth, he became a bru257 hmanu803 a in the very same body by the power of his spiritual achievements. He picked a quarrel with Vasisu803 tu803 ha Muni when he was a ksu803 atriya king and performed a great sacrifice in cooperation with Magau324 ga Muni and thus was able to vanquish the sons of Vasisu803 tu803 ha. He became a great yogu299 , and yet he failed to check his senses and thus was obliged to become the father of u346 akuntalu257 , the beauty queen of world history. Once, when he was a ksu803 atriya king, he visited the hermitage of Vasisu803 tu803 ha Muni, and he was given a royal reception. Viu347 vu257 mitra wanted from Vasisu803 tu803 ha a cow named Nandinu299 , and the Muni refused to deliver it. Viu347 vu257 mitra stole the cow, and thus there was a quarrel between the sage and the King. Viu347 vu257 mitra was defeated by the spiritual strength of Vasisu803 tu803 ha, and thus the King decided to become a bru257 hmanu803 a. Before becoming a bru257 hmanu803 a he underwent severe austerity on the bank of the Kauu347 ika. He was also one who tried to stop the Kuruksu803 etra war.

In that great human sacrifice, Viu347 vu257 mitra was the chief priest to offer oblations, the perfectly self-realized Jamadagni had the responsibility for chanting the mantras from the Yajur Veda, Vasisu803 tu803 ha was the chief brahminical priest, and the sage Ayu257 sya was the reciter of the hymns of the Su257 ma Veda.

Satyavatu299 , however, pacified Ru803 cu299 ka Muni with peaceful words and requested that her son not be like a fierce ksu803 atriya. Ru803 cu299 ka Muni replied, "Then your grandson will be of a ksu803 atriya spirit." Thus Jamadagni was born as the son of Satyavatu299 .

PURPORT

The great sage Ru803 cu299 ka was very angry, but somehow or other Satyavatu299 pacified him, and at her request he changed his mind. It is indicated here that the son of Jamadagni would be born as Parau347 uru257 ma.

Parau347 uru257 ma described to his father and brothers his activities in killing Ku257 rtavu299 ryu257 rjuna. Upon hearing of these deeds, Jamadagni spoke to his son as follows.

Thus Jamadagni, being worshiped by Lord Parau347 uru257 ma, was brought back to life with full remembrance, and he became one of the seven sages in the group of seven stars.

PURPORT - Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: uc0u346 ru299 mad Bhu257 gavatam 9.16.24

The seven stars revolving around the polestar at the zenith are called saptarsu803 i-manu803 du803 ala. On these seven stars, which form the topmost part of our planetary system, reside seven sages: Kau347 yapa, Atri, Vasisu803 tu803 ha, Viu347 vu257 mitra, Gautama, Jamadagni and Bharadvu257 ja. These seven stars are seen every night, and they each make a complete orbit around the polestar within twenty-four hours. Along with these seven stars, all the others stars also orbit from east to west. The upper portion of the universe is called the north, and the lower portion is called the south. Even in our ordinary dealings, while studying a map, we regard the upper portion of the map as north.

PURPORT - Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: uc0u346 ru299 mad Bhu257 gavatam 9.16.24

The seven stars revolving around the polestar at the zenith are called saptarsu803 i-manu803 du803 ala.

these mandala does ever exists, on the sky arrownd the pole star ?

who is these pole star and for what is a sapta-mandala of rishis more exactly working on out there, is to some order of the svetadvip planet right !? what is this high goal for in betwen the rshis?!

what dyou read?