Pariprashnena — Q&A Archive

Problems are caused by elements that act mainly in the lower modes, even though having the external signs of a vaishnava. Remember, we conditioned souls are doing devotional service under the modes and some mainly under the lower modes.

And, of course that is more problematic when they are in the upper echelons.

if we politely and respectfully do not pay heed to their rajo guna programs we might see they go or cease. After all spreading KC in rajo guna needs a lot of manpower and money, we shouldnt be part of it.

Kind of a grassroots revolution, doing the simple things that helped our movement to achieve worldwide influence.

I do not think it is a problem of "goodies and baddies", trying to politically fit friend-enemy rajoguna dealings, but a question of maturity and understanding.

No devotee is bad but can be dangerous to think they are all in the platform of sattva guna understanding, just because they dress in some way, they hold a position or are faithful to temple program.

In a nutshell, respectful non collaboration with wrong approaches and programs and engaging in the simple day to day things Srila Prabhupada taught us, like a little prasadam, harinam, book distribution chanting and feasting in whatever outreach capacity we can with devotees that share that simplicity and spirit.

...from what I can see everything in Iskcon is doing just fine, what do you mean by " internal Political disease " ?

Two types of people live in bliss, the ignorant and the liberated, Those in between, we suffer immensely.

" internal Political disease " ? Simple- Persons in positions of power who take advantage of the innocent and naive by pretending to be far more advanced than they actually are. How many pretenders have fallen? Did I hear 40% somewhere? Who can ignore these statistics? Solution : Give genuine education to newcomers
Jaya Nitai The transcendental Avaduta

maybe we should chant more?

I am chanting with Ekendra

Maybe chant more attentively?

addendum to the quote I gave above:
all of them are chanting.

more lovely and more surrendered than in any era before, after all these aims to be also the last efort on the entire shrshti-chakra.. Gadai is right and i see that the mere thing can be expirienced aproaching submissively to the actual ISKCON stablishment, the policy exists for rulling and if there are bests devotees and times better than we should get as devotees they may populate the corners of these planet to get to chant the maha mantra and sing out loud for time immemorial.

Jay Nitay Jay Gauranga !

The same way that Srila Prabhupada cured the Gaudiya Maths internal disease:

Accept that which is favorable, neglect that which is unfavorable. Focus on your contribution. Practice seriously. Go out and preach. bas.

[quote][cite] sitapati:[/cite]The same way that Srila Prabhupada cured the Gaudiya Maths internal disease[/quote]
gaudiya math was not cured, was abandoned by Srila Prabhupada, if we have to follow those happenings...

Out of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakuras Gaudiya Math have come many branches, including Sri Caitanya Sarasvat Math, Sri Gopinath Gaudiya Math, etc, and ISKCON.

Then are you suggesting that from ISKCON come more branches???

"Instruct everyone to follow the orders of Lord uc0u346 ru299 Kru803 su803 nu803 a as they are given in the Bhagavad-gu299 tu257 and u346 ru299 mad-Bhu257 gavatam. In this way become a spiritual master and try to liberate everyone in this land."

- http://vedabase.net/cc/madhya/7/128/

Just do what youre told to do, and Krishna will take care of the rest. How it turns, what it looks like, that we dont know. Simply do your part as an instrument in the battle. Otherwise we could speculate forever... better to just read the books, figure what I personally am supposed to do, and do it, no?

Just to be clear, Im not advocating "leaving ISKCON" or "becoming independent" or anything like that. What am advocating is doing what Srila Prabhupada did. You just focus on doing your duty and the chips fall where they fall. There is no need to approach it with a political mentality at all. Its simply a question of duty. The outcome is up to Krishna.

...my personal mission is to expose " ISKCONs internal Political disease " to every inteligent devotee I can get to listen, as well as life-members and the media.Why should thousands of devotees seek association outside of Iskcon while the same two and a half dozen devotees wreck everything for everyone else? They keep their same positions and titles and make very nice arrangements for them-selves and their freinds year after year.

I totally agree with Hariharibol, i think thats one of the missions of all the devotees who are endeavoring for the sake of this sankirtana movement, Srila Prabhupada said that ISKCON can never be damaged by outside forces but he predicted its problems will be from within and we can see that this is coming to be true, the question is how do we solve it? because after all it can only be cured from WITHIN so it the duty of all of us as DEVOTEES to stand in UNITY for the same cause, and to CO-OPERATE only then can we truelly attain first hand success... whos with me??

we are preparing a collaboration site for that purpose. anyone interested please contact iskconvoice@gmail.com

...excellent idea Mishra Prabhu, we can also log on to the " Petition to the Courts to Enforce Elections of the GBC Every 3 Years as Ordered by Srila Prabhupada " ( copy and paste the title into Google ), describe the nonsense going on in your local temple community and email it to 100s of your local media and Hindu groups.The GBC will never reform unless they think they are being watched.