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is it permissible to kill on the gurus order?

Philosophy · asked by user [] · 2008-05-14 · 9 answers
is it permissible, even required, to kill if given such instruction by ones guru?
user [24] · 2008-05-14
if it correlates with sadhus and sastra

In the case of Kswami -> no.
user [24] · 2008-05-14
in the case of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura ordering the snake to be killed outside the Gaudiya Math in Yogapith -> yes.
user [153] · 2008-05-14
how about in the case where radhanath ordered sulocans killing, in defense of kirtanananda, kuladri and himself, and then later regretted having ordered it?
user [154] · 2008-05-14
Not only that but Arjuna was required to kill his gurus.
user [1] · 2008-05-15
[quote][cite] janmastami das:[/cite]how about in the case where radhanath ordered sulocans killing, in defense of kirtanananda, kuladri and himself, and then later regretted having ordered it?[/quote]
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user [296] · 2008-06-10
Wasnt it Parasurams guru who ordered him, "Chop off the head of your mother (Renuka)" He didnt hesitate, he immediately chopped off her head. It illustrates the guru and disciple relationship. Parasuram didnt deliberate on the gurus instruction. Immediately he carried it out. He got the gurus mercy. Of course, guru means guru in the true sense, one hundred percent surrendered.
user [154] · 2008-06-10
yes only if your guru is your military guru. (hey what it has to do with the snake? that was just an illustration of sastric point and if you lived in bengal you will know that killing of cobra is a pious deed...)
user [265] · 2008-06-10
[quote][cite] premasru:[/cite]Wasnt it Parasurams guru who ordered him, "Chop off the head of your mother (Renuka)" He didnt hesitate, he immediately chopped off her head. It illustrates the guru and disciple relationship. Parasuram didnt deliberate on the gurus instruction. Immediately he carried it out. He got the gurus mercy. Of course, guru means guru in the true sense, one hundred percent surrendered.[/quote]

First of all, Parasurama was the only child who obeyed the order of his enraged father (Jamadagni). That does not in any way establish a precedence for anyone to kill on the order of his guru. Jamadagni had to suffer the consequences of his order, and that is the real moral of that story.

It is also worth pointing out that Jamadagni was powerful to revive his wife Renuka, after she was killed by Parasurama. Unless your guru can revive his victim, do not agree to kill for him.
user [296] · 2008-06-10
[quote][cite] Kula-pavana:Unless your guru can revive his victim, do not agree to kill for him.[/quote]

Thank you for bringing this point to focus. A guru, bona fide guru acts only for the pleasure of Krishna and wouldnt tell his disciple to do something that goes against sadhu-guru-sastra principles.

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