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Is it a case of a silly typist or a partial editor?

My question is specifically about the original versions authenticity. Don'b4t want to start another "change the books" thread :)

[quote][cite] mishra:[/cite]My question is specifically about the original versions authenticity. Don'b4t want to start another "change the books" thread :)[/quote] You mean to say that you do not question the original versions authenticity, are you?

In other words, where is the earlier edition or transcript-tape wherefrom the original text has been taken?

As far as I know tapes are gone.

Are you saying that this "Even if one thinks that there are many pseudo devotees or non devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society, still one should stick to the Society;" is an addition?

Both versions say "if one thinks that there are _many_ pseudo devotees or non devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society", neither version says something like "if one thinks that _all_ devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society are pseudo devotees or non devotees".
It is only in the case if one version would say "all" that there would be a problem.

It seems to me that both versions given in the OP are actually saying the same thing. Both say one should associate with ones spiritual master. And since the spiritual master is part of the Society, it is impossible to leave the Society, but still associate with the spiritual master.

has there ever been a reprint or will there be of the original version? Similar to the 1972 Gita?

Old version is in Vedabase. But due to the fast pace of production (the famous CC marathon to finish the whole book) therere many mistakes.

Hare Krishna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Please accept my humble obeisances.

Yes, i have the One Volume Sri Caitanya Caritamrta by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, and the quotation, as you have written, is there in the purport. The value of this original edition just shot up a thousand-fold; seeing how current print versions have been corrupted and how rare they have become. I was unaware of the changes. To find out if the original is or will be available try www.krishna.org, affiliate of asitis.com

Do they say the same thing? Absolutely not. Srila Prabhupadas version says we can keep company with him who is the Spiritual Master of the society. Some will question how can we consult with Srila Prabhupada when he has physically departed. But what do you think prayer is for? Why pray if you do not believe the Spiritual Master and Sri Krishna can hear us? Why offer food if He cannot eat? Is the Lord not everywhere? Does He not know our heart? Is He not in our hearts, directing our wanderings? Is Srila Prabhupada not His external representation?

The Bhaktivedanta Purport goes on to say, "However, unless one follows the spiritual masters istructions and the regulative principals governing chanting and hearing the holy names of the Lord, one cannot become a pure devotee." This statement confirms that the instructions of Srila Prabhupada and the regulative principals of chantiing and hearing the holy names of the Lord are what is needed to become a pure devotee, and that is what is meant by association or keeping company.

The original version is not a mistake. The time factor is under Lord Krishnas control, He is not under it.

The difference is, the later version promotes sticking to the society and the original authorized edition promotes sticking to the Spiritual Master and his instructions. Sticking to the society but not sticking to Srila Prabhupada and his instructions is not recommended. Srila Prabhupada is both within and without the society. He is Jagat Guru, the Spiritual Master of the universe. Therefore, Srila Prabhupada, Sri Guru, is the important person to keep contact with--whether within or outside the society.

Srila Prabhupada taught by his own example, saying he always felt the presence of his Spiritual Master. With such a perfect person as Srila Prabhupada as our Divine Eternal Master, i wonder why more are not inspired to cultivate the same?

Hare Krishna

As usual, youre OT, assuming to know what others cultivate or not.

[quote][cite] ccd:[/cite]Are you saying that this "Even if one thinks that there are many pseudo devotees or non devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society, still one should stick to the Society;" is an addition?[/quote]

I dont know the exact process of how the purports were made. I imagine though that to some extent, they might be compilations from various sources?
For example, in a lecture on a particular verse, Srila Prabhupada might have elaborated on something more than in the direct dictation for the purport. It would make sense to incorporate that into the purport.[br][br]

Other than that - Does anyone think that the two versions are saying different things, and if yes, by what reasoning?

Srila Prabhupada wrote purports independently of his lectures. Since you can read Czech heres an article about the book production: http://www.harekrsna.cz/cvs/menu/filozofie/zakladatel_iskconu/knihy

The essence is the same. Without comparison with tape or manuscript I cant make any conclusions. For CC they should be still extant.

[quote][cite] Baker:[/cite][quote][cite] ccd:[/cite]Are you saying that this "Even if one thinks that there are many pseudo devotees or non devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society, still one should stick to the Society;" is an addition?[/quote]

I dont know the exact process of how the purports were made. I imagine though that to some extent, they might be compilations from various sources?
For example, in a lecture on a particular verse, Srila Prabhupada might have elaborated on something more than in the direct dictation for the purport. It would make sense to incorporate that into the purport.[br][br]

Other than that - Does anyone think that the two versions are saying different things, and if yes, by what reasoning?[/quote]

No the purports were normally dictated by Prabhupada and as the case is with CC, put together by Pradyumna, then edited and as the case was with CC rushed without final proofreading due to deadline. The rush and lack of proofreading had caused the quality drop, that was fixed in the second edition? We forget how much Pradhyumna actually did, we also forget that most of CC purports are coming from BSST. But in any case the final result coming from Prabhupada to BBT was a typed page (something like the one attached). The above quote does not make much sense, as it look something was lost in translation. Only the tapes of Krsna book really survived (thank you Sdg) and CC tapes did not survive.